Comments for vesterli.com http://www.vesterli.com Watching Oracle Development Tools Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:26:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 Comment on Oracle’s Message to System Integrators: Go Away by juergenkress http://www.vesterli.com/2011/11/24/oracles-message-to-system-integrators-go-away/#comment-1386 juergenkress Fri, 25 Nov 2011 12:58:39 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/?p=140#comment-1386 Hi Sten, We can track any licenses Scott / Tiger sold to any customer. In the case you not want to re-sell license, we would like to recommend to use of the Oracle Open Market Model: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7jzPbS7t5s&feature=player_embedded With OMM we can track also the cases where you do not transact any license and most important we can ensure sales alignment and support you as our partner in our joint opportunities. Additional your Oracle partner manager can support you in your Specialization process and analyze your transaction criteria. Are you in contact with your Oracle partner manager? Best regards Jürgen Kress Hi Sten,

We can track any licenses Scott / Tiger sold to any customer. In the case you not want to re-sell license, we would like to recommend to use of the Oracle Open Market Model: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7jzPbS7t5s&feature=player_embedded

With OMM we can track also the cases where you do not transact any license and most important we can ensure sales alignment and support you as our partner in our joint opportunities.

Additional your Oracle partner manager can support you in your Specialization process and analyze your transaction criteria. Are you in contact with your Oracle partner manager?

Best regards Jürgen Kress

]]> Comment on Oracle’s Message to System Integrators: Go Away by vesterli http://www.vesterli.com/2011/11/24/oracles-message-to-system-integrators-go-away/#comment-1385 vesterli Fri, 25 Nov 2011 12:24:44 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/?p=140#comment-1385 I appreciate the part about helping us improve and document our knowledge. But Oracle has set up a system that doesn't match the SI business model at all. We now have to go to your customers, interrogating them "when did you get this license? where did you get this license?". This wastes our time and our customers' time, irritates them and strains our relationship - for the sole purpose of putting a checkmark into some internal Oracle database. Please drop the software resell/co-sell/referral requirement for SIs! I appreciate the part about helping us improve and document our knowledge.
But Oracle has set up a system that doesn’t match the SI business model at all.

We now have to go to your customers, interrogating them “when did you get this license? where did you get this license?”. This wastes our time and our customers’ time, irritates them and strains our relationship - for the sole purpose of putting a checkmark into some internal Oracle database.

Please drop the software resell/co-sell/referral requirement for SIs!

]]> Comment on Oracle’s Message to System Integrators: Go Away by juergenkress http://www.vesterli.com/2011/11/24/oracles-message-to-system-integrators-go-away/#comment-1384 juergenkress Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:16:11 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/?p=140#comment-1384 Hi Sten, thanks for your feedback on Specialization. We are highly interested that our joint customers find you the experts e.g. ADF Specialized partners. Yes our core business is to sell software licenses, that is why we do need you as our partner to deliver the services and to make our joint customers successful! We want to recommend our customers the right partners which make them successful. Therefore we started the Specialization program, to make it easy to recognize this partners by product. To support you with Specialization we have published a Specialization eBook: Specialization eBook. In this eBook you find also details about the business criteria including the reselling. If you do use our OMM program, it’s not necessary that you sell licenses to become Specialized! To promote Scott/Tiger we are adding more and more benefits for Specialized partners e.g. plaques, certificates, google advertisement, promote your events at oracle.com or a new solution catalog which we will launch in December. For more information please visit our blogs: • http://blogs.oracle.com/emeapartnerweblogic/ • http://blogs.oracle.com/soacommunity/ To support you with your Specializations please become a member in our communities: • SOA Partner Community for registration please visit www.oracle.com/goto/emea/soa (OPN account required) • WebLogic Community (including ADF, Java…) for registration please visit http://www.oracle.com/partners/goto/wls-emea (OPN account required) Best regards and a good weekend Jürgen Kress Hi Sten,

thanks for your feedback on Specialization. We are highly interested that our joint customers find you the experts e.g. ADF Specialized partners. Yes our core business is to sell software licenses, that is why we do need you as our partner to deliver the services and to make our joint customers successful!
We want to recommend our customers the right partners which make them successful. Therefore we started the Specialization program, to make it easy to recognize this partners by product. To support you with Specialization we have published a Specialization eBook: Specialization eBook. In this eBook you find also details about the business criteria including the reselling. If you do use our OMM program, it’s not necessary that you sell licenses to become Specialized!

To promote Scott/Tiger we are adding more and more benefits for Specialized partners e.g. plaques, certificates, google advertisement, promote your events at oracle.com or a new solution catalog which we will launch in December.

For more information please visit our blogs:
• http://blogs.oracle.com/emeapartnerweblogic/
• http://blogs.oracle.com/soacommunity/

To support you with your Specializations please become a member in our communities:
• SOA Partner Community for registration please visit http://www.oracle.com/goto/emea/soa (OPN account required)
• WebLogic Community (including ADF, Java…) for registration please visit http://www.oracle.com/partners/goto/wls-emea (OPN account required)

Best regards and a good weekend Jürgen Kress

]]> Comment on (Some) User group members are bullies by jcflack http://www.vesterli.com/2011/11/15/some-user-group-members-are-bullies/#comment-1382 jcflack Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:08:19 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/?p=139#comment-1382 I agree that the behavior at the conference keynote was very rude, and I was ashamed of my fellow members. I'm surprised that you got a poor response from the group leadership. On the other hand, I don't know what can be done about it, other than to lecture the membership like they were high schoolers (which is how they behaved) - but lectures don't work with teenagers, much less with adults with juvenile minds. Anonymity protects bullies and criminals, but it also protects people who protest against repressive governments that would like to treat them as criminals. Tough problem here, but worth discussing - thanks, Sten. I agree that the behavior at the conference keynote was very rude, and I was ashamed of my fellow members. I’m surprised that you got a poor response from the group leadership. On the other hand, I don’t know what can be done about it, other than to lecture the membership like they were high schoolers (which is how they behaved) - but lectures don’t work with teenagers, much less with adults with juvenile minds.

Anonymity protects bullies and criminals, but it also protects people who protest against repressive governments that would like to treat them as criminals.

Tough problem here, but worth discussing - thanks, Sten.

]]> Comment on (Some) User group members are bullies by ultan http://www.vesterli.com/2011/11/15/some-user-group-members-are-bullies/#comment-1380 ultan Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:06:40 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/?p=139#comment-1380 Gosh, anonymous users can be offensive can't they? I don't think IT professionals are any worse as I have seen this kind of behaviour when Tweets were used to gather questions at a couple of conferences I have attended. It is a problem, generally. Of course, at conferences usually one of the first questions I get from the floor, when speaking about social media, is "how do we moderate it?" Ironically, Facebook insists on real names. Perhaps only text messages that include full names that can be quickly scanned against attendance lists is the way to go, or at least put up a slide saying text messages are fine, but behave like professionals. Gosh, anonymous users can be offensive can’t they? I don’t think IT professionals are any worse as I have seen this kind of behaviour when Tweets were used to gather questions at a couple of conferences I have attended. It is a problem, generally. Of course, at conferences usually one of the first questions I get from the floor, when speaking about social media, is “how do we moderate it?”

Ironically, Facebook insists on real names.

Perhaps only text messages that include full names that can be quickly scanned against attendance lists is the way to go, or at least put up a slide saying text messages are fine, but behave like professionals.

]]> Comment on Oracle, Social, Cloud and Mobile (OpenWorld 2011, part 3) by vesterli http://www.vesterli.com/2011/10/06/oracle-social-cloud-and-mobile-openworld-2011-part-3/#comment-1353 vesterli Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:08:29 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/?p=137#comment-1353 I understand that Oracle needs a social product for marketing reasons - but they "get it" just as little as Yammer and Salesforce. I don't think these tools have all that much actual usage - they get bought after a cool demo (like the one Larry gave), but building online communities is HARD. More than 90% of all attempts to build professional online communities fail - so trying to make your users use yet another social network will fail for most organizations. Additionally, Oracle has two specific points against them in social: * Multiple products: In addition to WebCenter Oracle Social Network, there are also social capabilities in the WebCenter Portal product (an activity stream portlet). Which one should I use? Oracle provides no direction. * Pricing: The Social product is not listed separately on the Oracle price list (http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list-070617.pdf), so it seems you have to buy the WebCenter Suite at 4000$ per user - a bit steep since both Yammer and Chatter starts at zero. I understand that Oracle needs a social product for marketing reasons - but they “get it” just as little as Yammer and Salesforce. I don’t think these tools have all that much actual usage - they get bought after a cool demo (like the one Larry gave), but building online communities is HARD. More than 90% of all attempts to build professional online communities fail - so trying to make your users use yet another social network will fail for most organizations.

Additionally, Oracle has two specific points against them in social:
* Multiple products: In addition to WebCenter Oracle Social Network, there are also social capabilities in the WebCenter Portal product (an activity stream portlet). Which one should I use? Oracle provides no direction.
* Pricing: The Social product is not listed separately on the Oracle price list (http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list-070617.pdf), so it seems you have to buy the WebCenter Suite at 4000$ per user - a bit steep since both Yammer and Chatter starts at zero.

]]> Comment on Oracle, Social, Cloud and Mobile (OpenWorld 2011, part 3) by sydoracle http://www.vesterli.com/2011/10/06/oracle-social-cloud-and-mobile-openworld-2011-part-3/#comment-1352 sydoracle Sun, 09 Oct 2011 06:18:58 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/?p=137#comment-1352 I think you are being a bit unfair on the social side. The 'in-company' social networks such as Yammer and Salesforce's Chatter already have some traction in corporate environments. They serve a different purpose to people's 'public' social networks. It is possible that Google Plus will target that when/if it launches for Google Apps customers, but there's room for Larry to get into that market, especially if he is tryng to chase out Salesforce. I think you are being a bit unfair on the social side. The ‘in-company’ social networks such as Yammer and Salesforce’s Chatter already have some traction in corporate environments. They serve a different purpose to people’s ‘public’ social networks.

It is possible that Google Plus will target that when/if it launches for Google Apps customers, but there’s room for Larry to get into that market, especially if he is tryng to chase out Salesforce.

]]> Comment on Share your knowledge - submit an abstract for ODTUG Kaleidoscope 2010 by rluttikhuizen http://www.vesterli.com/2009/10/24/share-your-knowledge-submit-an-abstract-for-odtug-kaleidoscope-2010/#comment-937 rluttikhuizen Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:04:09 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/2009/10/24/share-your-knowledge-submit-an-abstract-for-odtug-kaleidoscope-2009/#comment-937 Hi Sten, You might want to change the date in the blog title :-) See you at ODTUG, Ronald Hi Sten,

You might want to change the date in the blog title :-)

See you at ODTUG,

Ronald

]]> Comment on Comparison of Oracle Portals by vesterli http://www.vesterli.com/2008/12/16/comparison-of-oracle-portals/#comment-687 vesterli Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:01:23 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/2008/12/16/comparison-of-oracle-portals/#comment-687 Unless you have very special requirements, both MS Sharepoint and the Oracle portal products can fulfill your portal needs. Which you choose will normally depend on the skills you have in your organization: - If you are a Microsoft shop with .NET programming skills, go with SharePoint - If you are a Java shop, go with one of the Oracle products (or another JEE portal) Unless you have very special requirements, both MS Sharepoint and the Oracle portal products can fulfill your portal needs. Which you choose will normally depend on the skills you have in your organization:
- If you are a Microsoft shop with .NET programming skills, go with SharePoint
- If you are a Java shop, go with one of the Oracle products (or another JEE portal)

]]> Comment on Comparison of Oracle Portals by angenz http://www.vesterli.com/2008/12/16/comparison-of-oracle-portals/#comment-686 angenz Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:33:01 +0000 http://www.vesterli.com/2008/12/16/comparison-of-oracle-portals/#comment-686 ok,thanks for your info. and actually, whats the differences between sharepoint server and weblogic portal? i mean, the comaprison btween these 2 platform. i still searching for that info till now. but i didn't get anything. plz help me regading to this problem. ok,thanks for your info.
and actually, whats the differences between sharepoint server and weblogic portal? i mean, the comaprison btween these 2 platform.
i still searching for that info till now.
but i didn’t get anything.
plz help me regading to this problem.

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